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Episode #39 | December 2, 2024 | Resilience-Informed Therapy: Building Strength in Trying Times
Dr. Mary Louder and Dr. Arielle Schwartz speak in this episode about what it means to be resilient, now to find that middle ground between constant anxious motion and shutting down in overwhelm, and the various paths into finding your own resilience. Dr. Schwartz discusses her own history with finding resilience and how yogic practice led her to a better understanding of how we can all find peace through self-acceptance and self-compassion, and together with Dr. Louder, starts putting the pieces together for a fuller picture of what mind-body-spirit health really means and how we can all practice it when facing uncertainty in our own futures. A must-listen episode!

Learn more about Dr. Schwartz here: https://drarielleschwartz.com/

Read her many books here: https://drarielleschwartz.com/books-by-dr-schwartz/

Find her therapeutic yoga classes on YouTube: Dr. Arielle Schwartz’ YouTube Channel

Transcript here: Transcript for S3:E17


Episode #38 | November 22, 2024 | What’s Fascia Got To Do With It?
...a lot, as it turns out! And possibly not in the areas you'd think. In this episode, Dr. Louder talks with Dr. Megan Pass, a physical therapist, about how fascia is a whole-body organ, and the implications of that fact: how headaches can sometimes be due to lower back issues, how foot pain might be related to the glutes, and how patients and practitioners can help restore balance in the system to help us all live our best lives. Listen in!

Transcript here: Transcript for S3:E16


Episode #37 | November 1, 2024 | What’s Up with Fascia, and Why is it So Important?
In this episode of Since You Put It That Way, Dr. Mary Louder and Dr. Megan Pass delve into the fascinating world of fascia. Discover why fascia is crucial to your overall health and how you can transform your understanding and relationship with this vital connective tissue. Tune in to learn about the techniques and insights that can help you unwind and care for your body’s fascia. 

Transcript here: Transcript for S3:E15


Episode #36 | October 11, 2024 | Gluten-Free Baking: Delicious Solutions and Gluten-Free Dilemmas
Welcome to the tastiest episode yet! Dr. Mary Louder and Jeffrey Larson, a James Beard Award-winning cookbook author and food stylist, discuss his journey into gluten-free baking, inspired by his mother's celiac diagnosis. Mr. Larsen highlights the emotional and physical challenges of adopting a gluten-free diet, noting the importance of comprehensive testing and creating inclusive meal environments. Then, in true holistic fashion, he and Dr. Louder talk about the significance of love and emotional support in managing dietary restrictions, allowing people to remain connected to their family and culture through food. Take a listen, and check out Mr. Larsen's cookbook, "Gluten-Free Baking at Home". 

Transcript here: Transcript for S3:E14

You can learn more about Jeffrey Larsen’s consulting work at his website, or purchase his book on Amazon (or at your vendor of choice).


Episode #35 | September 20, 2024 | Ethical and Legal Issues in the Practice of Medical Intuition
Dr. Louder was honored to be a guest on the OneMedicine Podcast for an episode where she and others explore the legal and ethical questions surrounding the use of medical intuition in the clinical setting. The expert panel, Dr. Louder included, discusses issues concerning a clinician’s use of medical intuition with their patients and clients, the benefits of working with a medical intuitive in a clinical practice, how to refer patients and clients to a qualified medical intuitive, and much more. Click below to listen for all the details!


Episode #34 | August 30, 2024 | Mary Louder | Season: 3 Episode: 13
Listen in as Dr. Mary Louder and Dr. Shyamaa Creaven discuss the importance of building resilience as an alternative to therapy, focusing in particular on the roles of community and spirituality in helping people face adversity. They discuss the overdiagnosis of trauma, caused in large part by a broadening definition of trauma, and the possibility of growth after trauma (which is actually more likely than having PTSD!) Get the details in the full episode, and learn all about the five pillars of resilience and how you can apply them to your own life. A great episode!

Transcript here: Transcript for S3:E13

Learn more about Dr. Shyamaa Creaven, and book an appointment with her, at her website.


Episode #31 | June 28, 2024 | Mary Louder | Season: 3 Episode: 10
Listen in as Dr. Mary Louder and Neda Leonard, MS, PharmD, BCPS, BCGD, explore the transformative impact of pharmacogenomics on personalized medicine, emphasizing the potential to tailor drug therapies to individuals based on their genetic makeup. From a discussion of ethical and efficacy concerns surrounding genetic testing, including potential biases and privacy concerns, to the importance of considering genetic factors that can either open the road for the body to use the medication or close that road off, they delve into many facets of this new field and how it can reduce the load of side effects and toxicity on patients and help them lead happier, healthier lives.

Transcript here: Transcript for S3:E10

Learn more about Dr. Leonard’s Pharmacogenomic Services


Episode #30 | June 7, 2024 | Mary Louder | Season: 3 Episode: 9
In this episode, Dr. Louder talks with Megan Pass, PT, DPT about the fundamentals of physical therapy and what you as a patient should know about the efficacy of different approaches to physical therapy and how you can choose the best physical therapist for you. In their conversation, they mention not only recovery from injury, whether chronic or acute, and recovery from surgery, but also injury prevention so you never need to have surgery. Finally, they take a mind-body approach to the discussion, touching on the helpfulness of an understanding of the nervous system and how physical therapists can facilitate the best mental and emotional state for positive outcomes. Listen in for the details!

Transcript here: Transcript for S3:E9


Episode #29 | May 17, 2024 | Mary Louder | Season: 3 Episode: 8
Yes, you read that right! Dr. Ramona Wallace, an osteopath who does research and teaching in the public health sector, has found scurvy among her patients--often, in fact, and along with other deficiencies in micronutrients (vitamins and minerals) that can have a deep, lasting effect on health from childhood through old age. In this episode, she and Dr. Louder discuss common signs that one might be suffering from a deficiency, the connection between adverse childhood experiences (ACEs) and micronutrient deficiency, and what to do if you think you or a loved one might be deficient in a nutrient based on the conversation in this podcast episode. This is one to share--the more people know about the signs of nutrient deficiency, and the fact that health issues like scurvy can and do still happen, the more people can find help and recover their health and well-being.

Transcript here: Transcript for S3:E8


Episode #28 | April 26, 2024 | Mary Louder | Season: 3 Episode: 7
Did you know there are multiple types and causes of arthritis, even osteoarthritis? In this episode, Mary Louder, DO speaks with Dr. Blake Miller, an orthopedic surgeon, all about the causes of arthritis, the gut-joint connection (because yes, diet can cause joint pain!) and how to prevent osteoarthritis and prolong good health from a holistic, functional medicine perspective. Listen in for the specifics and the tips!

Transcript here: Transcript for S3:E7


Episode #27 | April 5, 2024 | Mary Louder | Season: 3 Episode: 6
Michelle Mandala Nigh and Dr. Mary Louder speak about the importance of meaning in lifestyle changes, and about how one can go about finding that meaning via a method of coaching called PERMA. Rather than setting arbitrary goals, PERMA coaching helps you set goals that are meaningful for your life and your individual outlook--your "why"--and therefore, that are easier to make permanent. Listen to get all the details!

Transcript here: Transcript for S3:E6


Episode #26 | March 15, 2024 | Mary Louder | Season: 3 Episode: 5
Join Mary Louder, DO and Sarah Seidelmann, MD, as they journey into what the path out of traditional medicine and into holistic, spiritual care looks like. Dr. Seidelmann speaks to her own background in surgical pathology, how she came to be interested in making a new way in life and in her career, and how she now works to heal others in a holistic, mind-body-spirit approach that leans heavily into spiritual practice and deep listening. 

Transcript here: Transcript for S3:E5


Episode #25 | February 23, 2024 | Mary Louder | Season: 3 Episode: 4
All about concussions: the symptoms, the actual damage not just to the brain, but to the systems of the whole body, how to detect a concussion, and how to begin healing from a concussion. Mary Louder, DO speaks with Jill Olson, PT, CLT, founder of Peak Performance Physical Therapy and one of the organizers of the Dylan Steiger Concussion Project, about the advances in medicine and physical therapy surrounding concussions over the past 15-20 years, where the science stands now, and how physicians and patients can help to advocate for proper care for concussions, whether they are sustained by young athletes or older adults. Listen for all the details!

Transcript here: Transcript for S3:E4


Episode #22 | January 5, 2024 | Mary Louder | Season: 3 Episode: 1
Learn all about genomic testing and its ability to personalize healthcare in this latest episode of Since You Put It That Way. After some discussion of genomics and their role in establishing and maintaining well-being and removing shame about aspects of health that may be genomically-based, such as weight gain or slow exercise recovery, Michelle Mandala Nigh coaches Mary Louder, DO in how to improve her cardiovascular fitness using lifestyle medicine. Enjoy this view of how genomic medicine looks in practice!

Transcript here: Transcript for S3:E1


Episode #21 | December 15, 2023 | Mary Louder | Season: 2 Episode: 16
Health Coaching is a fast-growing addition to the landscape of modern American healthcare. Hear all about it--what works, what doesn't, what causes more harm than good--in this episode from Mary Louder, DO and Katie Suleta, trained Epidemiologist and Informaticist, as they discuss the forms health coaching takes. From scope creep to the physician shortage to the doctor-patient relationship and accountability, they dive deep into this topic to bring clarity and guidance to a much-debated field. 

Transcript here: Transcript for S2:E16


Episode #19 | November 3, 2023 | Mary Louder | Season: 2 Episode: 14
In this episode, Mary Louder, DO talks with Michelle Mandala Nigh all about anxiety, from whether it is helpful or harmful, to what it tells us and how it sends messages to the body, to options for helping people heal from trauma and other mental health issues, whether through medication, therapy, or coaching. Toward the end of the episode, they also touch on how different age groups face mental health work and approach life differently, and finally, to the shift coming in the model of medical care, spurred on by the rise of telemedicine throughout the pandemic. One to listen to, for sure!

Transcript here: Transcript for S2:E14


Episode #15 | August 11, 2023 | Mary Louder | Season: 2 Episode: 10
Explore the world of cardiogenomics with Dr. Mary Louder and Amanda Archibald, RD as they discuss how genomics play a role in heart health, both in terms of specific genes that cause disorders and in terms of a buildup of genomic variants that add up to cause problems with vascular health. They discuss the role of diet and nutrition, hormones, and more in this comprehensive, holistic look at the different factors that impact cardiovascular wellness and our health overall. Listen to find out more!

If this cardiovascular series has made you curious about your own heart health, you can learn more about and sign up for the Boston Health/Cairn Wellness Cholesterol Panel here.

Transcript here: Transcript for S2:E10


Episode #14 | July 21, 2023 | Mary Louder | Season: 2 Episode: 9
This episode explores the world of cardiology through a holistic lens. Dr. Louder and Dr. Alicia Williams discuss the many factors that play into cardiovascular health, from hormones to cholesterol to diet and gut health to emotional and mental health and so much more. They highlight unusual symptoms that might point to cardiovascular problems and spotlight women's symptoms in particular, since they can often differ and be more subtle.

If this cardiovascular series has made you curious about your own heart health, you can learn more about and sign up for the Boston Health/Cairn Wellness Cholesterol Panel here.

Transcript here: Transcript for S2:E9


Episode #11 | May 19, 2023 | Mary Louder | Season: 2 Episode: 6
In this episode, Dr. Mary Louder teaches about cholesterol: about its function in the body, both helpful and not, and how it plays a role in cardiovascular disease if it gets out of balance. She also discusses the many other factors that can play into cardiovascular disease, and how a holisitic, lifestyle medicine focus can help reduce this major cause of mortality in our society.

Also, Dr. Louder introduces her new community, which you can join for free here to learn more about various topics in health and wellness. Joining is free, though there are also paid levels that include courses and/or health coaching.

Last but not least, if this episode has made you curious about your own cholesterol and how it might impact your health, you can learn more about and sign up for the Boston Health/Cairn Wellness Cholesterol Panel here.

Transcript here: Transcript for S2:E6


Episode #8 | February 6, 2023 | Mary Louder | Season: 2 Episode: 3
In this episode, Dr. Louder talks with Amanda Archibald, a certified nutritionist and author of the book The Genomic Kitchen, about the emerging field of nutrigenomics and how to eat to support your body based on your genomic code.

Transcript here: Transcript for S2:E3


Episode #7 | February 3, 2023 | Mary Louder | Season: 2 Episode: 2
In this episode, Dr. Louder talks about patient engagement--what it is, why it's essential to positive outcomes in healthcare, the challenges in creating and maintaining it, and how we can overcome those challenges to improve the doctor-patient relationship and create a better path forward toward health and wellness.

She also asks a series of questions in the podcast, which you can find in a downloadable format here. She would love it if you would email your responses to hello(at)drmarylouder(dot)com.

Transcript here: Transcript for S2:E2


Episode #6 | January 6, 2023 | Mary Louder | Season: 2 Episode: 1
A conversation with Lynn Swearingen, a teacher at the Psychic Horizons Center in Boulder, CO, and a massage therapist and practitioner of acupressure with twenty-nine years of experience in holistic medicine. In this episode, she and Dr. Louder discuss, through the lens of indigenous practices and other holistic theories, emotional and mental wellness and the power of connection with one's own self and others to promote healing from trauma, grief, and anxiety..

Transcript here: Transcript for S2:E1


Episode #5 | December 9, 2022 | Mary Louder | Season: 1 Episode: 5
A higher-level explanation of trauma and how to find our way through it to hope and healing, including a practice from the Self-Care and Connection protocol.

Transcript here: Transcript for S1:E5


Episode #4 | November 15, 2022 | Mary Louder | Season: 1 Episode: 4
A conversation with Me, Myself and I about intuition and deep listening, and how learning to deeply listen to myself over these past four years has changed my life and work.

Transcript here: Transcript for S1:E4


Episode #3 | November 15, 2022 | Mary Louder | Season: 1 Episode: 3
In this episode, Dr. Louder talks to Scott Russo, MD, about the process of "prehabilitation"--getting patients ready for the experience of surgery or a life-changing diagnosis by strengthening them in body, mind, and spirit.

Transcript here: Transcript for S1:E3

Prehabilitation FAQ here: Prehabilitation FAQ


Episode #2 | September 30, 2022 | Mary Louder | Season: 1 Episode: 2
In this episode, Mary Louder, DO talks with Martha Jo Atkins, an end-of-life counselor and author of the book Signposts of Dying, about approaches to the end of life and what the end of life means for the rest of our lives.

Transcript here: Transcript for S1:E2


Episode #1 | September 21, 2022 | Mary Louder | Season: 1 Episode: 1
Meet our host and hear all about our podcast in this inaugural episode of "Since You Put It That Way"!

Transcript here: Transcript for S1:E1